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		<title>By: comprar Franck Muller relojes</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-29736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[comprar Franck Muller relojes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 09:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Este es un gran post y esto es tan cierto]]></description>
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		<title>By: Has Everything Changed?</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24380</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Has Everything Changed?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Karl Smith writes something that I think should make nearly all of us nervous: At its heart the issue is that Industrialization Really Was Different, and there is no reason to think it will come again. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Karl Smith writes something that I think should make nearly all of us nervous: At its heart the issue is that Industrialization Really Was Different, and there is no reason to think it will come again. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: seanmom</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24318</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s why the government wants a back door to everything. Because if people have all the value locked in their heads, they have private, not public, power. Government needs an economy based on power that can be leveraged into the public realm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why the government wants a back door to everything. Because if people have all the value locked in their heads, they have private, not public, power. Government needs an economy based on power that can be leveraged into the public realm.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Geisler</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24252</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Geisler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The textile machines of the industrial revolution did that. They allowed unskilled workers to produce the same quality goods as skilled workers and in much greater quantity.&quot;

I would argue they merely replaced the skills of hand-spinning and hand-weaving with the skills of keeping the machines running. I suspect anyone who doesn&#039;t think that&#039;s a real set of skills, hasn&#039;t tried to run those machines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The textile machines of the industrial revolution did that. They allowed unskilled workers to produce the same quality goods as skilled workers and in much greater quantity.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would argue they merely replaced the skills of hand-spinning and hand-weaving with the skills of keeping the machines running. I suspect anyone who doesn&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a real set of skills, hasn&#8217;t tried to run those machines.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Berger</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24201</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Berger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How were the numbers behind the graph calculated?  Could you tell us what series were used and what operations were performed on them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How were the numbers behind the graph calculated?  Could you tell us what series were used and what operations were performed on them?</p>
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		<title>By: Industrialization Really Was Different: In this new world you cannot simply work hard and make a good living. Nor, should you expect that if you save for your future you can support yourself. &#171; Economics Info</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24197</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Industrialization Really Was Different: In this new world you cannot simply work hard and make a good living. Nor, should you expect that if you save for your future you can support yourself. &#171; Economics Info]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James A. Donald</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James A. Donald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we suppose that official inflation numbers and unemployment numbers are lies, as seems likely, then looks to me more like a Galt Strike than innovators keeping all the proceeds of innovation.

The biggest innovation in recent times has been the smartphone, in particular the android operating system and all the novel software for that system, and, by and large, what the android innovators are getting is the smell of oil rag and a slap across the face.

If we use shadowstats figures rather than official government figures, growth has collapsed, which is what we would expect if innovators are are getting the smell of oil rag and a slap across the face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we suppose that official inflation numbers and unemployment numbers are lies, as seems likely, then looks to me more like a Galt Strike than innovators keeping all the proceeds of innovation.</p>
<p>The biggest innovation in recent times has been the smartphone, in particular the android operating system and all the novel software for that system, and, by and large, what the android innovators are getting is the smell of oil rag and a slap across the face.</p>
<p>If we use shadowstats figures rather than official government figures, growth has collapsed, which is what we would expect if innovators are are getting the smell of oil rag and a slap across the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Working for a Living Not Such a Great Deal Anymore &#124; The Militant Left</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Working for a Living Not Such a Great Deal Anymore &#124; The Militant Left]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Until about 2000, that is, when wages began to stagnate but prices rose steadily anyway. Output continued to increase, but none of the increase was going to workers. Karl&#8217;s thesis is that the Industrial Revolution was a one-time deal and it&#8217;s over now: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Until about 2000, that is, when wages began to stagnate but prices rose steadily anyway. Output continued to increase, but none of the increase was going to workers. Karl&#8217;s thesis is that the Industrial Revolution was a one-time deal and it&#8217;s over now: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cig</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24140</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As wrigglefreeabc says, software is replicable, it just takes some effort, and even that may not last: it&#039;s still pretty much of a craft (pre-industrial), with great scope for automation through technical progress.

Moreover those &quot;innovators&quot; that have turned innovation into dollars in the recent past have often used  the legal system astutely to their advantage (the ratio of legal/business to technical engineering in the tech industry would be interesting to track), collecting rewards way above what the people who drafted the laws in and for an earlier age intended. It&#039;s not obvious that societies will keep on tolerating that a few use the might of the state to collect unearned economic rent for long. And even if they did, it seems quite probable those excluded will find some ways to route around the rent seekers&#039; fragile edifice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As wrigglefreeabc says, software is replicable, it just takes some effort, and even that may not last: it&#8217;s still pretty much of a craft (pre-industrial), with great scope for automation through technical progress.</p>
<p>Moreover those &#8220;innovators&#8221; that have turned innovation into dollars in the recent past have often used  the legal system astutely to their advantage (the ratio of legal/business to technical engineering in the tech industry would be interesting to track), collecting rewards way above what the people who drafted the laws in and for an earlier age intended. It&#8217;s not obvious that societies will keep on tolerating that a few use the might of the state to collect unearned economic rent for long. And even if they did, it seems quite probable those excluded will find some ways to route around the rent seekers&#8217; fragile edifice.</p>
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		<title>By: John Strong</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Strong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Extracting massive rents, on the scale that is being practiced now, *is* innovation. No longer do you have to manufacture a product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extracting massive rents, on the scale that is being practiced now, *is* innovation. No longer do you have to manufacture a product.</p>
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		<title>By: NPW</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24130</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it possible to get the data for the graph?  I want to do some add some lines.  Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to get the data for the graph?  I want to do some add some lines.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Questions that are rarely asked — Marginal Revolution</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Questions that are rarely asked — Marginal Revolution]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] From Arnold Kling (and the graph is from Karl Smith): [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: wrigglefreeabc</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24119</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think you&#039;ve got the mechanics wrong.  i don&#039;t understand why software isn&#039;t as easy to replicate as hardware.  i write software for a living and in most cases it&#039;s easy enough for me to intuit how something was done or to figure out how to do something if i see what&#039;s done.  actually doing it is another issue, as that takes a large amount of organization, far beyond the level of creating a product.  and i don&#039;t necessarily see what keeps this level of organization from becoming more easily replicable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you&#8217;ve got the mechanics wrong.  i don&#8217;t understand why software isn&#8217;t as easy to replicate as hardware.  i write software for a living and in most cases it&#8217;s easy enough for me to intuit how something was done or to figure out how to do something if i see what&#8217;s done.  actually doing it is another issue, as that takes a large amount of organization, far beyond the level of creating a product.  and i don&#8217;t necessarily see what keeps this level of organization from becoming more easily replicable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karl, real good point.  As you suggest, this has already started to happen.  The silicon valley crowd has gotten extremely wealthy over the years.  What is happening now is that the composition of the VCs is changing.  It used to be outside capital coming into the valley.  Now the valley is self-financing.

The capitalists and founders are the same people, and they are capturing more of the gains.  Witness, for instance, the large share of Facebook that Zuckerberg has held for himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl, real good point.  As you suggest, this has already started to happen.  The silicon valley crowd has gotten extremely wealthy over the years.  What is happening now is that the composition of the VCs is changing.  It used to be outside capital coming into the valley.  Now the valley is self-financing.</p>
<p>The capitalists and founders are the same people, and they are capturing more of the gains.  Witness, for instance, the large share of Facebook that Zuckerberg has held for himself.</p>
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		<title>By: docmerlin</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24115</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is consistent with a story of increasing barriers to entry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is consistent with a story of increasing barriers to entry.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky Hargrove</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Becky Hargrove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking at the graph, one only wonders how the separation did not happen sooner.  And much of that separation is due to the fact that even as human labor has continued to be linked to the process, more of money based wealth than ever is now provided by machines.  Karl we continue to have great trickle down wealth effects from the process they just are increasingly difficult to replicate in monetary terms.  And because this is so, it is time to replicate the wealth from this complex system on new terms.  Even as we look beyond industrialization, it is still the structure upon which we can build new and stronger wealth.  In a sense what we provide now is like a lean-to on the original structure which can grow with time.

We emulate the wealth that came from the recent past on community wide scales, in which we return to knowledge as the first prior of economic action and measure it through time use, rather than the limited access of human capital to money.  To be sure, we continue to encourage the human capital to money link but do so with the realization that it cannot provide for all of our needs.  The trickle-down that has really been blocked has been the use of knowledge at the individual level, and the fact that it was blocked is what made our lives unaffordable in the recent  present.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the graph, one only wonders how the separation did not happen sooner.  And much of that separation is due to the fact that even as human labor has continued to be linked to the process, more of money based wealth than ever is now provided by machines.  Karl we continue to have great trickle down wealth effects from the process they just are increasingly difficult to replicate in monetary terms.  And because this is so, it is time to replicate the wealth from this complex system on new terms.  Even as we look beyond industrialization, it is still the structure upon which we can build new and stronger wealth.  In a sense what we provide now is like a lean-to on the original structure which can grow with time.</p>
<p>We emulate the wealth that came from the recent past on community wide scales, in which we return to knowledge as the first prior of economic action and measure it through time use, rather than the limited access of human capital to money.  To be sure, we continue to encourage the human capital to money link but do so with the realization that it cannot provide for all of our needs.  The trickle-down that has really been blocked has been the use of knowledge at the individual level, and the fact that it was blocked is what made our lives unaffordable in the recent  present.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24095</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But the converse of low marginal costs of production, but high fixed costs, imply a universe where innovators get even &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; of their contribution to productivity. Every innovation will be a sunk cost, and those with phenomenally high individual marginal benefit will be driving investment. Everyone else free-rides.

Who has the high marginal benefit...? Well, organizations - people with incumbency. It merely so happens that capital is more organized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the converse of low marginal costs of production, but high fixed costs, imply a universe where innovators get even <i>less</i> of their contribution to productivity. Every innovation will be a sunk cost, and those with phenomenally high individual marginal benefit will be driving investment. Everyone else free-rides.</p>
<p>Who has the high marginal benefit&#8230;? Well, organizations &#8211; people with incumbency. It merely so happens that capital is more organized.</p>
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		<title>By: John Seater</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Seater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over long periods of time, productivity gains accrue to the reproducible factors (physical capital, human capital) more than to the non-reproducible factors (land, natural resources, unskilled labor). That can be seen in the behavior of factor shares both in the time series and cross-section data. One dramatic example is that land&#039;s share of national income in England was about 20% in 1600 and now is a fraction of 1%. Similarly, unskilled labor&#039;s share has fallen to around 5% of US GDP, whereas total labor&#039;s share (which includes payment to human capital) is about 70%. Remember, though, that income shares are not the same as income levels. Levels can (and do) rise even though shares fall. That&#039;s because the pie is getting larger. Also, much technical progress benefits unskilled labor. The textile machines of the industrial revolution did that. They allowed unskilled workers to produce the same quality goods as skilled workers and in much greater quantity. So in terms of income shares, the non-reproducible factors have been losing out to the reproducibles for a long, long time. In terms of levels, all types of factors have gained for a long, long time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over long periods of time, productivity gains accrue to the reproducible factors (physical capital, human capital) more than to the non-reproducible factors (land, natural resources, unskilled labor). That can be seen in the behavior of factor shares both in the time series and cross-section data. One dramatic example is that land&#8217;s share of national income in England was about 20% in 1600 and now is a fraction of 1%. Similarly, unskilled labor&#8217;s share has fallen to around 5% of US GDP, whereas total labor&#8217;s share (which includes payment to human capital) is about 70%. Remember, though, that income shares are not the same as income levels. Levels can (and do) rise even though shares fall. That&#8217;s because the pie is getting larger. Also, much technical progress benefits unskilled labor. The textile machines of the industrial revolution did that. They allowed unskilled workers to produce the same quality goods as skilled workers and in much greater quantity. So in terms of income shares, the non-reproducible factors have been losing out to the reproducibles for a long, long time. In terms of levels, all types of factors have gained for a long, long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Noumenon</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24088</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I gotta say I barely understand this at all, on a &quot;words making sense as sentences&quot; level.

Anyway, isn&#039;t the real problem with &quot;When you simply write down the process you want or draw the object you want and the computer translates it for you the seep down will grind to complete halt&quot; not that the innovation is locked in the innovator&#039;s brain but that the computer replaces the low skill workers he would need to translate it into reality?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say I barely understand this at all, on a &#8220;words making sense as sentences&#8221; level.</p>
<p>Anyway, isn&#8217;t the real problem with &#8220;When you simply write down the process you want or draw the object you want and the computer translates it for you the seep down will grind to complete halt&#8221; not that the innovation is locked in the innovator&#8217;s brain but that the computer replaces the low skill workers he would need to translate it into reality?</p>
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		<title>By: foosion</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24085</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Productivity gains are distributed according to supply and demand and relative bargaining power (obvious overlap between these two factors).

Labor is in a weak position to bargain.  Policy issues include a slow economy, exchange rates, unionization, immigration laws, etc.

Capital is also in a weak position due to a slow economy.

I&#039;m not clear why you label the residual beneficiaries as &quot;innovators,&quot;  unless you&#039;re counting as innovators CEOs, those in finance (and other fields) with the political power to extract massive rents (e.g., too big to fail bailouts) and the like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Productivity gains are distributed according to supply and demand and relative bargaining power (obvious overlap between these two factors).</p>
<p>Labor is in a weak position to bargain.  Policy issues include a slow economy, exchange rates, unionization, immigration laws, etc.</p>
<p>Capital is also in a weak position due to a slow economy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not clear why you label the residual beneficiaries as &#8220;innovators,&#8221;  unless you&#8217;re counting as innovators CEOs, those in finance (and other fields) with the political power to extract massive rents (e.g., too big to fail bailouts) and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: hapa</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24081</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We&#039;re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you&#039;re studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we&#039;ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that&#039;s how things will sort out. We&#039;re history&#039;s actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you&#8217;re studying that reality &#8212; judiciously, as you will &#8212; we&#8217;ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that&#8217;s how things will sort out. We&#8217;re history&#8217;s actors &#8230; and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Economist's View: "It’s Obvious Where Profits Have Come From"</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24079</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Economist's View: "It’s Obvious Where Profits Have Come From"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 08:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Update: Karl Smith comments on the same graph. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: Karl Smith comments on the same graph. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Thoma</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2012/02/21/beyond-industrialization/#comment-24077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Thoma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You shouldn&#039;t count my post as a success of your prediction since it was already up before this prediction was posted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#8217;t count my post as a success of your prediction since it was already up before this prediction was posted.</p>
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