Paul Krugman is beginning to wax Smithian. Via Mark Thoma
How goes the state of the union? Well, the state of the economy remains terrible. … But there are reasons to think that we’re finally on the (slow) road to better times. And we wouldn’t be on that road if Mr. Obama had given in to Republican demands that he slash spending, or the Federal Reserve had given in to Republican demands that it tighten money.
Why am I letting a bit of optimism break through the clouds? Recent economic data have been a bit better… More important, there’s evidence that the two great problems at the root of our slump — the housing bust and excessive private debt — are finally easing. …
A couple of things.
This would actually be a great issue over which to flush out the relevant narrative. Paul sees housing prices and private debt overhang as the driving concern.
I tend to think that housing prices per se, don’t matter, land prices do and that the private debt overhang is not necessarily a big deal.
If we lived in a world without capital it would be. The only way to get the economy going again would be for natural borrowers to be able to meet the savings demand of natural savers. That can only happen if the debt overhang is reduced.
However, in a world with capital this need not be the case. Natural savers can switch from funding the consumption of natural borrowers to funding the capital investment. In an environment of stable land prices and rising population this is almost a no brainer because structures last a really long time relative to recessions and increasing population means that eventually they will be needed.
If the carrying costs are zero or negative then building is no brainer. The problem is that buildings are attached to land and when land declines in value it upsets the collateral backing a potential loan. This effectively increases the risk premium and means that real interests rates have to be very low or even negative to fund construction.
In any case, what I wanted to touch on here was how fast the recovery can proceed. Most people are still saying years to full employment and that would be my guess, but it is worth noting that the speed limit on the economy is extremely high. Here for example is the closing of the output gap post 1983

From 7 percent to 1 percent in a little over a calendar year.
Now lets look at the output gap as it stands today

So following a similar path we could close the output gap almost completely by the end of this year.
Will that happen. Given the stance of the Federal Reserve so far, I doubt it. However, its important to note that this is a choice. The Fed is deciding that the costs to closing the gap by Q1 2013 outweigh the benefits.
It is clearly and fully within their power to do so and they have done so before.
I’ll follow up on a couple posts on why this is utterly realistic on the ground. As a preview, we have the office space, we have the factory capacity, we have the roadway capacity, we have the electrical power generation in place. We have the storefronts. We have the cranes. We have the bulldozers All the things we need for GDP to increase GDP by 10% over the next year are in existence.
And, – and this is important – we have actual physical counts of these things. We need not speculate. We know how bulldozers there are in America. We know how many square feet of office space are for lease.
The pretense of knowledge is a lot less pretense-full when you have a 1 Terabyte portable Hard Drive and GIS mapping software.

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Monday ~ January 23rd, 2012 at 11:29 am
Curt Doolittle
Yes, we know you want to save the Obama presidency.
But if it’s saved, it will be due to the weak slate of Republican candidates, not the policies of the President, who, by any measure, is one of the bottom four or five in history.
Makes me wonder why Conservative economists are quoting Kahneman and Progressives are not?
I don’t really wonder at all actually.
Monday ~ January 23rd, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Lord
The weak slate of candidates or their flawed policies that created this in the first place?
Monday ~ January 23rd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
Matt (@MeCampbell30)
Yes, the bottom 4 or 5 if you have no sense of history.
Monday ~ January 23rd, 2012 at 11:42 am
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[...] all seriousness, Karl has a point. While we should always be sceptical of how much we really know, we should always do [...]
Monday ~ January 23rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Don Gibson
Some negative carrying costs: taxes; depreciation 1%/year if you rent; declining construction costs (improved construction efficiency); style changes; location,location,location. Buyers can be finicky.
That said, housing is becoming a regional issue.
Monday ~ January 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Anon
“We have the physical counts…” Sounds like you’re getting ready to author a Soviet “Five Year Plan”!
Tuesday ~ January 24th, 2012 at 4:26 am
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Tuesday ~ January 24th, 2012 at 8:29 am
Benny Lava
This blog has previously opined that the nation is primed for a boom in housing construction. Some areas moreso than others. Since we have good metrics, where are we most likely to see it?
I mean I know where we won’t see it: Las Vegas.
Tuesday ~ January 24th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Karl Smith: 'The speed limit on the economy is extremely high' - Global Economic Watch - Global Economic Crisis: Cengage Resource Center
[...] ..and he asks us to consider whether we could see a rapid recovery over the next year. Smith says it si possible. Not likely, but possible. Read How Fast, Recovery here. [...]
Friday ~ January 27th, 2012 at 10:27 am
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[...] Kirk is not only employing someone who makes race car beds, he’s also taking up another unit of housing. Kirk van Houten is engaged in the messy business economists refer to as household formation, creating another unit of demand for housing (as well as boosting aggregate demand for things like race car beds in weak economic times). If you haven’t seen it already, there’s several arguments that a wave of household formations will start, taking pressure off the housing market and boosting overall aggregate demand. See Yglesias here, Krugman here and Karl Smith here. [...]