I pick on Tyler because he is probably one the sharpest voices for what I see as a deep misunderstanding of the issue. Though, I think this misunderstanding is incredibly widespread – as holiday gatherings make clear.
Tyler says
Maybe these markets simply will shut down soon. There is so much talk about what the Germans should do, but I don’t see the viable options. With Germany’s own credit status now in doubt, eighty percent debt to gdp ratio, massive welfare state, and unfavorable demographics, are they supposed to endorse — going to endorse — ten or fifteen percent price inflation for a few years’ time, all with no guarantee of reforms in the economically weaker countries? And is that inflation then followed by a subsequent deflation? Or does it continue forever? And would Germany have to move to a regime of wage flexibility for the professions too? How politically feasible is that? I don’t see how the Germans benefit from going down this road, even if you think, as I do, that the alternatives are quite dire.
Germany doesn’t need to experience any of these things. Germany only needs to agree to letting the ECB stand as Lender of Last Resort.
I haven’t spoken with Tyler personally on this but from my conversations over the holidays I can see that the difficult thing to understand is that what is at issue here is the distribution of private claims over private resources.
On one level you can see this by noting that part of the reforms which Mario Monti is putting in place are to decrease tax evasion. Yet, taxes are simply the forcible extraction of private resources by the government. Its not as if taxes represent the government producing something or even government officials or government pensioners consuming less.
Taxes represent the transfer of resources under the threat of imprisonment. Now, if this could possibly solve your problem then you know that at root the problem has to be about who holds private claims over resources.
You can attack the problem in another way by seeing that Italy is roughly in primary budget balance. This means current borrowing exists only to repay past lenders. Again, this is an issue over the distribution of private claims.
To make the point more clear – this is explicitly not the case for Greece. From a budget standpoint Greece faces a more fundamental issue. It is currently in primary deficit. It would have shift resources from private control to public control in order to balance the budget given the current economic environment.
It is true that Greece’s economic environment is primarily the result of a fundamental mismatch in monetary policy between it and the core countries and so could be solved if Germany were to endure more inflation. However, Greece does face an immediate adding up constraint that Italy does not face.
A third way to see this is to imagine what would happen if Italy repudiated its debt vs. Greece. Italy would then be able to support itself on tax revenue. Greece would not. Greece would have to go back into the bond markets somehow and get more money.
Why is all of this important?
Its important because it means Italy doesn’t actually need anyone to transfer real resources to it. It simply needs someone to manage resource distribution among bondholders. The ECB can do this at virtually no direct cost.
Again that is because nothing actually has to be produced or transferred. Debt just has to be managed.
Perhaps, a fourth way to see this is by noting that you only need new savers to agree to step in where old savers were. This is ultimately a co-ordination issue between groups of savers. Its breaking down because there is a musical chairs issue. No one wants to be the last saver who can’t find someone to whom to transfer his savings.
The ECB can assure this doesn’t happen because the ECB controls the total amount of borrowing from European banks. It can constrict the amount of borrowing to make sure that someone steps up to take the transfer of Italian debt.
All of this is to say that Germany doesn’t have to suffer any near term economic bad effects. What Germany loses in supporting a move like this is the ability to pressure peripheral governments into changing their ways.
In theory one could agree to a new system, along the lines I have proposed, in order to keep the pressure on. The problem, of course, is that if you are even considering offering Lender of Last Resort status then you have signaled that you do not have a complete commitment to irrationality, in which case it immediately becomes in the interest of the peripheral countries to dig in and refuse to change unless Lender of Last Resort status is offered up front.

12 comments
Comments feed for this article
Friday ~ November 25th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Karl Smith’s Italian assumption – Kantoos Economics
[...] Karl Smith has a post on Tyler Cowen’s recent remarks about Germany and the Euro. I like Karl’s way of framing the issue: Italy has a primary surplus, and therefore just needs to find new lenders for old ones. There is no real transfer of resources, but a necessary coordination of savers in order for this to work. And the ECB could fulfil that role. [...]
Friday ~ November 25th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Carl
why does tyler say that germany’s credit status is in doubt? It isn’t.
Friday ~ November 25th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
TallDave (@TallDave7)
A good piece, but I think perhaps Tyler is ahead of you on this one. Consider this graph:
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/11/euro-contagion.html
Then there’s the demographics. Italy can support itself on tax revenue today, but very likely not for much longer.
(Carl — probably because of what happened at the last bond auction.)
Friday ~ November 25th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Gray, Germany
Lots of stuff that is wrong or at least shortsighted in this story!
“Germany only needs to agree to letting the ECB stand as Lender of Last Resort.”
And where’s any mechanism in that preventing irrepsonsible governments from increasing their popularity among voters with generous programs funded with borrowed money, when the lender of last resort will always bail them out? That’s a major German concern!
“Its not as if taxes represent the government producing something”
Law and order, security and infrastructure, that’s nothing? Those are the very basics that are necessary as the foundation of any modern economy!
“You can attack the problem in another way by seeing that Italy is roughly in primary budget balance.”
ONLY if you see no difference between public debt and private assets! But Italy isn’t a communist state. So, that theorectical view is totally useless.
“It can constrict the amount of borrowing to make sure that someone steps up to take the transfer of Italian debt.”
Imho that vastly exaggerates the abilites of a central bank. Pushing investors into buying a certain bond? Has this ever worked, or at least been tried, anywhere, ever?
“All of this is to say that Germany doesn’t have to suffer any near term economic bad effects.”
D’oh. Said like a true snake oil salesman! But we Germans are concerned about long term sustainability. Of course, you can make any problem temporarily go away by throwing lots of money at it. But that’s no real solution!
“What Germany loses in supporting a move like this is the ability to pressure peripheral governments into changing their ways.”
That’s EXACTLY what we don’t want to lose! Without those nations changing their ways, they will stay on artificial life support FOREVER. Again, thats no real solution!
All in all, that’s a very shallow, unconvincing and disappointing article, Mr. Smith. Try harder.
Saturday ~ November 26th, 2011 at 1:38 am
Carl
Sorry gray i don’t buy that argument. The only country that was being fiscally irresponsible before the crisis was greece. why spank all your children when only 1 misbehaves?
Saturday ~ November 26th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Gray, Germany
Sry, Carl, but imho that falls a bit short. While Greece really was totally irresponsible, not only fiscally, but on virtually all other fields, too, the other struggling nations made their own serious mistakes which have to be corrected now. Ireland deregulated its banks to a degree that was unhealthy. Also, the Irish, just like the Spaniards, did nothing to prevent the real estate bubble from blowing up until il violently burst. The Italians have never really fought their huge black market economy, and dragged their feet on other necessary reforms for a decade. And I’m not for spanking children, but I say: No pocket money until you have done all your homework!
Saturday ~ November 26th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Gray, Germany
One last point that totally rubs me the wrong way:
“It is true that Greece’s economic environment is primarily the result of a fundamental mismatch in monetary policy between it and the core countries and so could be solved if Germany were to endure more inflation.”
NO NO NO! It is true that Greece’s productivity is much too low for its level of labor costs. That’s the real issue. And there’s several ways to correct this, but only someone with dangerously distorted ethics would seriously propose to put a successful economy of 80 million people under the hardship of high inflation just to make life easier for 11 million people who got themselves into an economic and financial mess. WTF, really? Are you serious, Mr. Smith?
Saturday ~ November 26th, 2011 at 8:40 am
cangrande
The assumption that the Greek economic malaise can be cured
“if Germany were to endure more inflation”
does not seem to be based on an understanding of the actual problems of Greece.
German inflation, at whatever level, is no instrument to
a) stop Greek unions from inflating even more (or at least same pace) and
b) magically step up Greek production (and export), and it will not even automatically and/or significantly boost German tourism to Greece.
As for your argument proper, I cannot exactly visualise what
a) should (under your assumptions) and
b) would (in reality, and also including the moral hazard aspect)
happen.
For one thing, I fail to see how a central bank could “make sure that someone steps up to take the transfer of Italian debt” through means of constricting the amount of borrowing?
Plus the Eurozone is, of course, not a closed economy. So the effects of capital flows (and the effects of lighthearted money-printing on the flows of private capital and on foreign central banks reserve holdings) would have to be considered.
But apart from the details any “you only need to …”-argument to me rather sounds like magic-wandism.
Sunday ~ November 27th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Is it easy to guarantee Italian debt? — Marginal Revolution
[...] no no, says I. Here is a recent post by Karl Smith, another by Brad DeLong. In those posts there is not enough emphasis on public choice problems [...]
Sunday ~ November 27th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Pat MacAuley
The “Primary Budget Surplus” is an ivory-tower concept that is counterproductive in the real world. A sophisticated lender or rating agency is concerned about the borrower’s ability to cover ALL of his expenses, and especially his loan repayments. The fact that the borrower could be solvent if he didn’t pay back his loan is not reassuring. In fact, this “primary budget surplus” condition puts the borrower in a moral hazard situation, where he might be better off commiting an Argentina-style default.
The primary surplus concept is especially dangerous when it is assumed that sovereign debt can be permanently rolled over instead of being repaid, even when the debtor is chronically in deficit. As sovereign debt and budget deficits increase, and as the global economy changes, this assumption is increasingly under challenge. The evolving problem with sovereign debt is especially acute in Europe, because the debt of some weaker countries is denominated in euros and because of disagreement over who is responsible for which debts.
Monday ~ November 28th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Web-Empfehlungen (1) « Denkraum
[...] Tyler Cowen on Europe – Karl Smith – Modeled Behavior, 25.11.2011 [...]
Monday ~ November 28th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Denkanstöße · Augenöffner (1) « Denkraum
[...] Tyler Cowen on Europe – Karl Smith – Modeled Behavior, 25.11.2011 [...]