I think we have basically two recessions going on in the United States. One is a standard recession in which the rate of inflation is too low and the real interest rate is two high.
This is causing the accumulation of capital and durables goods to be depressed from their long term equilibrium.
Why do I say depressed and not a return to normal?
Well, because as of the last few years the auto fleet in the United States has begun to shrink. That is, we are scrapping cars at a faster rate than we are producing them.
Unless something changes in the next 18 months, our scrappage rate will begin to exceed new cars sales by the millions of units per year. In a country that is still growing in population and still adding drivers every year its hard to explain why the optimal path is suddenly for the vehicle fleet to shrink.
The same thing is becoming true with houses. New homes starts are roughly were demolitions are. We are scrapping about as many new homes every year as we are creating.
It will be a while before the stock of new homes appreciably declines but it will not be too long before homes per person in the United States falls to multi-decade lows.
Now maybe something radically changed and we all decided that actually we had too many cars and too many homes but an alternative explanation is just that the real interest rate is too high.
At the same time there is also a balance sheet recession going on that looks a little different. What we see here is a decline in retail sales ex-autos that is truly historic. Don’t pay attention to people waving graphs of PCE.
PCE is fine for what it is, but what it is not, is a measure of what consumers purchasing decisions. It is dominated by either third party payments, imputed expenditures or what most people would call “bills” things like electricity, heat and rent.
What you really want to look at his retail sales ex-autos. Those are in the dumps. They are in the dumps in large part because people saw their home values decline and are now pulling back.
These two recessions are happening at the same time but they are not quite the same.

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Tuesday ~ October 4th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
jpersonna
I’d think that bubbles often produce over-supply. This was probably true with 4 bedroom retirement homes, and extra cars.
Actually, I always owned 2 cars but shrank to 1 in the last couple years. It wasn’t a hardship, just a change in focus.
(BTW, I have a comment stuck in the queue on the second Man vs. Machine article, don’t I?)
Tuesday ~ October 4th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Becky Hargrove
I was about to say that the auto industry had taken a page from the housing industry and then you stated the obvious. What I’d like to know is percentage wise, how much scrapping is actually going on in both areas? Looks like we’ll get over the Great Recession when we have walkable cities and greater population densities in owner-designed building blocks on electric and plumbing grids provided by the municipalities for their primary source of income. (rentals)
Tuesday ~ October 4th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Axel
sorry to ask such a basic question but which retail sales x auto are you referring to ? actually when i look at nominal retail sales ex Auto in the US I can’t see any downtrend. I would add they seem to be 3.6% above their mid 2008 peak, which make a low 1.16%/yr annual growth.
It’s true that once deflated by the proper CPI this indicator could well be below it’s previous peak, but so is the GDP right ?
so I can’t get your point about this measure – which makes me think i’m not looking a the right figure….
Could you explain a bit more please ?
thank you
Axel
Tuesday ~ October 4th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
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Tuesday ~ October 4th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Benny Lava
“Now maybe something radically changed and we all decided that actually we had too many cars and too many homes”
There is some evidence that this is the case.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/09/suburbs-losing-young-whit_n_569226.html
Money quote: “America’s suburbs are now more likely to be home to minorities, the poor and a rapidly growing older population as many younger, educated whites move to cities for jobs and shorter commutes.”
Wednesday ~ October 5th, 2011 at 6:19 am
Joe Chen
Recession theories…
Wednesday ~ October 5th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
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Friday ~ October 7th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Nathanael
Yes, you’ve got both types of recession. And they’re stacked on top of structural problems — an oil-dependent economy hitting peak oil, a concentration-of-wealth=and-power problem (which directly prevents addressing the balance sheet recession by creating powerful hard-money advocates; and indirectly helped cause the balance sheet recession by preventing wages from receiving productivity gains and causing loans to substitute for wages), and in the US a completely dysfunctional health care “system” causing massive distortions in the job market and spending large amounts on socially destructive paperwork.
So we have quite a few economic problems. They *all* have to be addressed, but the concentration-of-wealth-and-power problem is a linchpin, because it’s one of the main things preventing us from politically addressing the others.