I am short. My wife is short. Chances are my son will be short. Here’s a question – why?
At this point in human history, height in the Western world is mostly genetically determined. Yet, as far as I can tell the advantages to having tall genes outweigh those to having short.
Even in a preindustrial environment this seems to be true. This is likely why taller people, especially men are more attractive and have higher status.
So, why did genetic shortness persist?

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Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Jonathan Stray
You could also just ask, why is there genetic variation? Unless all humans are clones, some people are going to get the short end of the… phenotype.
Also maybe short people are harder to spot from a distance in the savannah, rendering them immune to velociraptors.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 10:59 am
wrigglefreeabc
intuitively they consume fewer resources. intuitively their parts wear out less quickly. i don’t have any real evidence, but that’s what comes to mind.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 11:06 am
tjic (@tjic)
Phrase it another way: if 6′ tall is good, why not 7′? If 7′ why not 10′?
A 10′ tall person has lots of disadvantages: more flesh to support means more blood for an overtaxed heart to pump. More surface area that radiates away heat in cold climates. A higher minimum caloric intake each day to avoid starvation. More lower back problems. More O2 consumption while running, which is not compensated sufficiently for by the larger lung capacity. More torque on bones and joints when walking or lifting items.
All of those problems must exist on a continuum.
We know that there are dozens – likely hundreds or thousands – of pressures that push height both down and up.
To a good approximation the current bell curve distribution is indicative of how the simultaneous equations are best solved.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
banjosupreme
Fully agree. Someone’s got to be shorter than average. And what’s considered short today probably wasn’t quite as short two centuries ago.
There is a point at which the marginal utility associated with each extra inch of height is negative (physiological issues, loss of agility etc). I don’t know I don’t know if the original question implies that a sizable portion of the population isn’t evolving toward that point.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Cenk
One reason could be the ever growing human population so there is no actual natural selection…
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Windchasers
There’s still plenty of natural selection, it just takes different forms than it used to. Fertility is still quite important, disease resistance has been important for the last 5,000 years, and lactose-tolerance in carbohydrate-heavy cultures helps (milk is an excellent cheap source of protein!). There are probably plenty of societal/psychological factors as well – how well you get along with others, your attractiveness, your intelligence, desire to reproduce young and often.. on and on.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Patrick
There are still shirt people in the west because while there is an advantage in being tall, being short does not destroy one’s chances for reproductive success.
There’s some selective pressure to get taller, but it’s hardly overwhelming. Do a lot of people who are short have kids? Yes. Therefore, short genes get passed on. That’s totally ignoring the potential for people to pass on genes that don’t see expression in themselves as well.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 11:22 am
wrigglefreeabc
the question i’ve always had is why variation is so _small_ for people. take dogs: you could have a 10x difference in size from one breed to another even though they could interbreed.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Eduardo
There’s also a difference between a physical attribute that has a clear genetic basis and physical attributes that are heritable but which lack a clear allele or mutation. Even if there were a clear genetic basis for it, it’s not clear that collectively humans screen out for all genetic conditions: little people typically want to have little kids, because they feel they can be better parents to someone like them. Ditto the hearing-impaired (there was a Washington Post article about a hearing-impaired lesbian couple a few years back who sought out a hearing-impaired sperm donor to increase the likelihood they would have a non-hearing child.)
Finally, people who have known deleterious genetic mutations, such as the BRCA gene, may still opt to conceive naturally instead of screening out for that mutation via a pre-implantation screen. While certain mutations that have a clear causal relationship to health conditions are becoming less and less prevalent (Down’s syndrome, Huntington’s) due to genetic screening/counseling, a family history of serious cardiac events at the age of 50 would be more clinically relevant when choosing a life partner than height, right? And yet, there’s no evidence that people opt not to mate with people who have those kinds of hazards in their family history…
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 11:30 am
jamesoswald
Because you short people keep having short kids! (Not that that’s a bad thing.)
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Sister Y
Height is not simply “genetically determined;” it’s a largely-genetically-determined response to a variable environment (cf. North and South Korea). Clearly, the capacity to be short has some survival benefits.
What I don’t understand is why, given the obvious benefits of unusual mating preferences in and of themselves, so few women seem to exhibit a preference for shortness in males. I don’t know of any unusual female characteristic that doesn’t have its hetero male devotees (shortness, tallness, obesity, thinness, etc.), but female preference seems weirdly homogeneous when it comes to male height. Are we that locked into the ideal of combat prowess after all these years?
(I am only attracted to males under like 5’8″ it’s RAD having this preference, except when it comes to sharing with one’s girlfriends who are likely to have the usual preference for height.) (Not hitting on you Karl.)
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Lord
Wealth lowers fertility, not physically but by choice. The wealthy prefer money while the poor prefer children.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
rjs
yourw misinterpetting natural selection; it is primarily concerned wih ability to reproduce one genetic material, above all other characteristics…
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Zenobia
Actually the point about wearing out sooner seems true, there is evidence that taller women get more cancer and sooner. But another point is that short women are attractive to some men, and that will bring down the average height of the child. Further, short men have to try harder, and some would contend that it actually makes them better specimens overall.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Hyena
Assortative mating plus excess mating opportunities. Taller people will tend to marry and have children with taller people; but since we’re not in a Darwinian fitness rat race where every gene counts, shorter people probably marry and reproduce with shorter and marginally less tall extremely often. Real selective pressure on height is probably fairly low as a result.
Would everyone prefer someone tall? Pretty much. Can everyone get someone tall? Probably not. Are they not going to mate as a result? Doubtful.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Hyena
Or divergent: taller people might be getting taller and shorter people might be getting shorter or just more consistently short generation to generation.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Khal Mojo (@KhalMojo)
Via Reihan Salam, Jared Diamond argues it was our move from hunter gatherers to agriculture:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2100251/Jared-Diamond-The-Worst-Mistake-in-the-History-of-the-Human-Race
“One straight forward example of what paleopathologists have learned from skeletons concerns historical changes in height. Skeletons from Greece and Turkey show that the average height of hunger-gatherers toward the end of the ice ages was a generous 5’ 9″ for men, 5’ 5″ for women. With the adoption of agriculture, height crashed, and by 3000 B.C. had reached a low of only 5’ 3″ for men, 5’ for women. By classical times heights were very slowly on the rise again, but modern Greeks and Turks have still not regained the average height of their distant ancestors.”
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
JohnB
“Yet, as far as I can tell the advantages to having tall genes outweigh those to having short.”
Expand on this pls. There don’t seem to be that many advantages actually. Unless the only one you are thinking of is increased attractiveness? Perhaps being better at some sports.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Chari
well, what if the genes(s) for being short are genetically linked to (i.e., colocated next to, and therefore jointly propagated along with) some other gene that carries some other survival advantage (bigger brains, malaria immunity, etc.) – that would be one “explanation” for why shortness persists.
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
John A
“At this point in human history” may be a partial answer. Example: the English until recently were largely short regardless of genetics (the tallest of Jack the Ripper victims, “Long Liz,” was what, five-three) so who knew whose kids would be short or tall?
Tuesday ~ August 16th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
lfvoss
What do you mean tallness hasn’t been selected for? How many dwarves are there in the world? How many pygmy societies exist?
That there is some variation that still exists doesn’t mean there wasn’t (and still is) the possibility for greater variation which has already been mostly removed.
The amount of variation that we currently see, with people more or less reaching their genetic potential, is a new phenomenon of the past few decades. Surely you wouldn’t expect THAT to have already been affected by natural selection.
Wednesday ~ August 17th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Andrew
As you know, I’m a tall person, who’s reasonably looked at the materials on this and it seems like there may be some nutritional and societal give left (although not enough to make up for the gap between the chronically taller-folk and the chronically shorter folk).
My best assessment would go back to the positive correlation between height and education / socio-economic status, then the negative correlation between education / socio-economic status and reproduction. Simply put, the tall-wealthy people may breed with other tall-wealthy people, but at a slower rate than the shorter people.
Natural selection, in this case, would be hardly relevant as height does not impact survival (or more important fertility), only social desirability. It will be interesting to see how the whole height situation plays out as the developing world reaches their vertical potential in the coming decades (watch for average heights increasing in India and China).
Wednesday ~ August 17th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Andrew
Also, as I forgot, and as others mentioned, shortness is a matter of perspective, both you and your wife are far taller than any of your genetic ancestors of 100 years ago (mostly due to nutrition).
Wednesday ~ August 17th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Johnnie Linn
Tallness is probably favored for humans that live on savannahs because it facilitates running–for example–chasing wounded game. In riverside cultures running is probably less selected for.
I read once a novel that mentioned modern humans in Africa that have a mutation that makes their feet resemble those of an ostrich. Perhaps a favorable mutation, if civilization had not intervened.
Wednesday ~ August 24th, 2011 at 2:38 am
Auguste (@RakishGrin)
It is difficult to achieve musculature. A man who achieves it demonstrates several desirable qualities that women cannot resist. Musculature demonstrates health, ability to get or access to resources and discipline in terms of being able to manage emotions and plan strategically for the future. Height, from a historical perspective, was even more of a sign of all of the above since achieving it was an even more difficult task with even larger rewards if achieved. Being shorter has an overwhelming survival advantage on many accounts; some named in comments above. Being muscular and especially being tall was EXCEEDINGLY expensive to achieve throughout our anthropological history. Tallness meant one had this privilege right from birth throughout. To become either meant unprecedented access to resources and enormously high status. And once either was achieved, they could hardly be taken away. Thus the few males who did achieve it had access to most of the females. The reason why men are taller than women is that we are in fact a highly polygamous species. It is nearly impossible to know for certain but compared to other mammals, we have likely been about an 80/20 species. In other words, 20% of the men get 80% of the women. We divide up into pairs to live, but our matting patterns, even to this very day, measure much closer to the 80/20 than most of us realize. 30% of all babies born in the United States do not belong to the father on record and you can bet that most dads have no idea that this has happened to them. I personally did a secret study that I cannot reveal or publish of my own on this; the odds of a family with 4 children having all 4 kids match dad’s genes are 4%. If you know someone who’s got 4, it is pretty easy, once you know this stat, to see that it is so! The tall gene is propagated massively through the secret dalliances of females. Another view on this same topic from a different angle…40% of all men will die without ever having sex (the figure is 4% for women.) 80% of US men are still virgins (though they’ll never admit it) at age 25. 80% of US women have had 6 sexual partners by the time they reach age 25.
Finally, 62% of income is determined by height. This holds true across borders, races, eithnicities, any groupings you care to try…your own work place..I guarantee it. Facial symmetry takes care of the next 30%. 8% of your lifetime income will be determined by education, hard work, brains etc etc. This is what it means to be human. Don’t think you are exempt! Look around you. There are exceptions, but they are exceptions. Artistic talent is the item most likely to buck this trend. Every girl loves a rock star eh? And how many of those did you run into at Starbucks today?
The facts of the day; plentiful food, relatively little violence, technological advances in medicine all play a huge roll in increasing heights; the female attraction mechanism is hard wired through evolution and likes what it likes. Tallness is no longer a sign of extraordinary survival genes, but women’s attraction mechanisms won’t catch up to that for another million years. Buy some elevator shoes.
Tuesday ~ October 18th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Michael Bishop
Auguste has no idea what he’s talking about.
Wednesday ~ October 19th, 2011 at 4:33 am
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Monday ~ July 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Mohammed Yunusa
Well, while today been told by an elderly man, a retired nigerian custom officer, that, when short and tall people met, the shorts always looks aggressive, because, the shorts thinks that, the talls will look down on them just because they are taller. {That is the shorts imagination} and in real sense, just try your findings.
It is true that, the taller people attract most, because, as you can see, the short girls goes for taller guys, likewise, the short guys goes for average girl,
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