Dennis Prager says you can’t believe all those studies saying that US health care is worse. After all they came from untrustworthy lefties.
If you believe that Americans have lousy health care, it is probably not because you have experienced inferior heath care. It is probably because you were told America has lousy health care.
Only later in the report does the discerning reader have a clue as to how agenda-driven this report and this study are. The otherwise unidentified Karen Davis, president of the never-identified Commonwealth Fund, is quoted as saying how important it was that America pass President Obama’s health care bill.
Could it be that Ms. Davis and the Commonwealth are leftwing?
They sure are, though Reuters, which is also on the Left, never lets you know.
This article highlights lots of intellectual problems
1) He thinks these studies are wrong / biased / etc. Shouldn’t one then be able to produce some alternative study that addresses whatever methodical problems you have with this one.
As Yudkowsky likes to say “The dumbest man in the world could say that the sun is shining but that doesn’t make it dark outside”
That is, it is not enough to show that your opponent is a fool, biased, evil or untrustworthy. You must actually show that he is wrong. Evil fools are sometimes right, if only by chance.
Indeed, Arnold Kling, a self-avowed libertarian, supported by CATO, the leading libertarian think tank, went out to prove exactly that. He came back saying that, no the crazy liberals were actually correct on that point.
They misunderstood the reasons, he said. The reasons were not greedy insurance companies. The reason was quite simply that much of our medical costs go towards premium medicine which is not particularly useful.
2) People who don’t agree with Dennis Prager are automatically on the Left. Karen Davis is a lefty, no doubt. But Reuters? The financial news service accused of shilling for Goldman Sachs? What do you have to do these days to get your right wing card?
It seems that agreeing with Dennis Prager is the only criteria.
3) Prager doesn’t even address the obvious retort, often ignored by those who complain of bias, that all of these journalist and researchers and think tank folks are on the left because that’s the answer they came to after studying the issues.
If it turns out that everyone who investigates something winds up supporting the other team, doesn’t that raise the possibility that the other team is right?
I am willing to take both sides to task on this. If for example, minorities consistently score lower on math tests, it could be that the test is biased. OR it could be that on average minorities are worse at math.
Similarly, if all the experts endorse “left-wing” positions, it could be that the experts are all biased. OR it could be that the left-wing position is objectively correct.
One should at least consider these possibilities.

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Tuesday ~ June 29th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Greg Ransom
It’s well documented that most all journalists are leftists and Democrats.
This is beyond debate.
An any idiot can see the MSM narrative shaped by this fact.
What’s your agenda in being dishonest about this?
Tuesday ~ June 29th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Karl Smith
My agenda is to encourage rightist to engage the journalists and leftist intellectuals rather than sitting around crying bias.
If the journalists are wrong then one should be able to demonstrate that they are wrong. Not simply saying “but they don’t like me” Maybe they don’t like you because you are wrong. How would you know if you don’t engage?
For example here is a much better piece.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com%2Farticles%2F2007%2F08%2Fwhy_the_us_ranks_low_on_whos_h.html&h=2e1a2czO2m40BS3f9_RRcX7ZJ1A
Tuesday ~ June 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Adam Ozimek
To be fair Karl, you should mention that your other agendas are world domination, the opening of a NAFTA superhighway, and a universal world currency of autographed photos of yourself.
Tuesday ~ June 29th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Greg Ransom
Prager is informing his audience about a fact that most don’t know — journalism and academia are not neutal sources of “facts”.
It really is dishoest to pretend otherwise.
More facts are better than fewer facts.
The biggest fact in the room is the one Prager highlights.
Academics and journalists are filters and self selected populartion subject to massive group think and social conditioning, much of which pulls against getting at the truth.
Tuesday ~ June 29th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Karl Smith
Well I mean those things go without saying
Tuesday ~ June 29th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
jazzbumpa
The idea that the MSM is leftist is the biggest scam since the food pyramid.
The simple fact that that David Brooks and Russ Douthat write for the NY Times should be enough to blow up that canard.
It’s entirely possible that most journalists are left/Dem (accepting without question that all dems – you know, Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Dan Boren are left, and anyone to the left of Prager is — well . . . left) because they are grubbing around in the dirty rael world and get some feel for how policy can affect the lives of actual people.
All of which makes Karl dishonest.
Wow. Come for the epistemic closure, stay for the irony.
Anyway, the debate gets off track because the ability of health care professionals and the quality of service they can provide is confounded with access to and the affordability of health care, which is what health care reform is actually all about. I don’t know if the problem here is with Prager or the sources he cites. Clearly, though, Prager’s intent is to propagandize rather than inform. Gee, do you suppose he might be right wing?
Cheers!
JzB
Tuesday ~ June 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
teageegeepea
I’ve been discussing what evidence misbehavior on some researcher’s part should weigh on a dispute at my own blog.
A book similar to Kling’s from the left is Shannon Brownlee’s “Overtreated”. I haven’t read either.
Your point 2 is quite poor. G.S was the biggest Democratic donor in the last election. What does Chuck Schumer have to do to get his right wing card?
#3 depends on what views they had before they started investigating, but we know less about that.
Greg Ransom:
“a fact that most don’t know”
Have they been living in a cave? And Karl wasn’t being dishonest about anything, he just said that noting the slant of a source is not sufficient to dismiss it.
I am interested in the currency idea and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Tuesday ~ June 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Greg Ransom
Dishonest “facts” are manufactured all the time:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/06/026643.php