There has been a lot of very thoughtful discussion lately about the obesity epidemic facing this country. All I have to add to this insightful and informed conversation is a comment on and picture of a turn-of-the-century sideshow freak:

This is Chauncy Morlan, and around 100 years ago his obesity was so shocking that people would pay money to see him as he toured the country as a circus “fat man”. I find the unremarkableness of his size to be a telling sign of how we’ve pushed the limits of obesity in the past 100 years. Imagine, if you will, what society would look like if 100 years from now if what passed as spectacularly obese today would not even turn heads at the mall.
[Note from Karl: Adam is a phenomenal satirist but now that you're here take a minute to read our other stuff on obesity:http://modeledbehavior.com/category/obesity/]

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Thursday ~ April 15th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Sister Y
Great image and great point.
I was in the Seattle airport last month and overheard the conversation of a relatively fit, attractive woman, perhaps 10 pounds overweight. She was telling someone on the phone that she’d attended a family wedding, and she was the only non-obese person in the wedding party OR the audience. Her small niece, presumably exposed to all this obesity as “normal,” told her she was malnourished!
Images and norms matter, but anorexia and bulimia are not public health problems. Obesity is.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
NorthstarTx
You’ve got to be kidding. Anorexia and bulimia may not be quite as widespread as obesity, but they are most certainly health problems, and will kill you significantly faster. That’s like saying that because there are cigarette smokers, crack cocaine isn’t actually a problem.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
jason
I don’t think you understand the definition of the phrase “public health problem.”
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
YourMom
anorexia cannot be compared to crack…
Thursday ~ April 15th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
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Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 10:25 am
ak
HFCS
Monday ~ April 19th, 2010 at 8:24 am
Balkan
Thanks, great lecture
Wednesday ~ May 26th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Dan
If you’re anorexic, you don’t have any crack
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 10:31 am
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Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Martin
This level of obesity might be “unremarkable” in the US, but in Europe and the rest of the world, it is still very unusual – and widely regarded as unacceptable. Here in Sweden, someone as obese as the man on the picture would definitely “turn heads at the mall”.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 11:00 am
beheader69
lol,,,true true…americans are all like that now.even worse
Monday ~ April 19th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Neal
Nonsense. The source of what is true should not be what you see on TV. America has fat people, Europe has feet people, Russia has fat people. The notion that America is nothing but fat people now, or a significant portion of the population is like the man pictured in this “article” is pure hype.
Friday ~ April 30th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
whoa
whoa. you clearly have never been to the midwest. or a county fair.
Wednesday ~ May 5th, 2010 at 11:26 am
mj
or a walmart. (or peopleofwalmart.com)
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 11:13 am
mike
All Americans are surely NOT like that.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Sine
I’m not like that so, definately all Americans are not!
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 11:31 am
Jonathan
Reminds me of the Axiom on WALL-E
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
jon
was thinking the same thing.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
odaglas
Defiantly should have mentioned Wall-E in the post! we as a nation are becoming increasingly sedentary, what a worrying issue. i should go running now.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 11:48 am
tk
I’ve watched so many of my dear friends balloon to similar sizes. Hear them saying “Oh well, you know I’m not so young anymore, and I’ve had kids…”
I’ve seen how an extra 10-20 pounds (or even an extra 40-50#) can sneak up on a person… how it impacts their mobility (knees, hips, ankles hurt),
impaired mobility = less moving around in general = more weight= increased limitations…. then diabetes, or heart problems, and sudden death at only 47-55 years old.
When I was sick with my appendix my weight was pretty good for my height, THEN I lost 20# in about 10 days of being violently ill. After the surgery, I didn’t eat more, but I had a long period of limited mobility (nifty 9 in scar and wrecked gut muscles). The 20# I lost to being ill, came back fast…. and brought friends! 40 friends.
I’ve been fighting a gain loss cycle of about a 30# range now.
Trying to get friends together to start a “walking team” to help me keep motivated, keep moving, get and keep my weight down.
friends who are having much more weight to lose are saying “What are you worried about you look fine…” but I certainly don’t FEEL ‘fine’. I used to be able to run down the driveway to get the mail and not even worry about it… but saying “well, you look fine” or “what are YOU worried about?” doesn’t help me avoid that extra 30# turning into an extra 100# or an extra 200# which is then IMPOSSIBLE to lose without heroic levels of medical support.
(though my personal thought is that HFCS has been a huge factor, … as a predecessor to the trend to rely on processed and fast food. HFCS has snuck into products that have NO GOOD REASON to have HFCS…why the Hell is it in BREAD or YOGURT? etc. HFCS seems to affect how people feel hungry and how they perceive food. If I drink soda I can’t resist the chips and then I eat MORE of them… if I stick to water, tea, etc without the HFCS, I can say “thank you, I don’t want ANY chips/cookies/Mc Ds” )
It’s a so easy to balloon into Sideshow guy, and so hard to lose it, and keep it off.
Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
yk
I make my own homemade yogurt – it’s really simple and easy – and then is as fresh and pure as the milk I use to make it. It’s hard to cut out HFCS unless you start cooking and eating with simple unprocessed ingredients. But, when I can get myself into the habit, it makes a huge difference. it’s all about context – so cut the crap from your household food stores and find friends who will support you in your goals to be more healthy, active and feel better.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
PS
If you know certain food causes you to over eat, don’t eat it. Pretty simple logic there. Here’s the other piece most people miss: lasting change requires building new habits, which will not happen quickly. If you try to overhaul your life overnight the odds say you will fail. Do some research on habits, it will help.
Slowly over the last 5 yrs I have trained my brain to view running as a reward. Again, it didn’t happen overnight, but boy has that long effort paid off!
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Vince
If you “go with the flow” of American Society you’ll become overweight if not obese. You can’t expect the entire population to swim as hard against the current as you? You have to change the flow one way or another. Do you think Europeans and Asians just have more willpower than Americans?
Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 12:29 am
SD
Right on about building new habits!
The ones that caused you to gain the weight are most certainly not going to help you lose the weight.
We keep doing the same things expecting different results.
Change the habit, change the result.
Behaviour change takes time and it’s unfortunate that our impatience usually causes us to give up before the new behaviour becomes the norm.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Laura
What a wake up call! This is so sad, America is really having a problem with everybody gaining weight, including myself. I am working very hard to get 30lbs off. I gained weight due to braking my back, not being able to move and depression. Excuses don’t bring results and I know this, thank God I’ve been able to walk lately after having the Spinal Chord Stimulator surgery Feb 1, 10.
I know I will lose the weight, because I am doing something about it, but I think if I was still unable to move I may of gained even more weight.
I’ve been watching Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution on Fridays nights, and I think he has the right idea. If we changed the food in schools and taught our kids how to eat right things would change. He already did it in England and it’s making a difference in these kids lives. If you haven’t watched the show you should, it’s right on this subject.
Last week they showed these HUGE caskets where people are so fat when they die they can’t fit in a normal casket. Then they can’t be put in a normal plot because they are to huge. You may ask why don’t they get cremated? They can’t cremate them, because they can’t fit in the furnace. If they do fit it takes a lot more energy to burn the body, because of their size so it cost a lot more money. It’s things people don’t really think about.
One more thing: I seen this lady on the news who is like 500lbs or more and she is trying to be the fattest person in the world! She is on some site where people pay to see her fat body and they send her things to make her fatter, like weight gaining powders and stuff. The women has kids! They showed her in the store riding one of those cart with the cutest little girl walking beside her, she must be about 5 years old. I think they need to take her kids away! They are watching this NUT kill herself and teach these kids bad habits.
I feel so bad for these kids, I want to go take them away myself.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
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Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
nolochemical
@Jonathan yeah totally, Eeeeeeva!!
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Cheese
Chauncy Morlan was 602 lbs. He was, even by todays standards, fucking huge. Maybe we don’t pay to look that folks this size anymore, and yes, there are more of them (factoring in that in US population in 1900 was about 75 million and today we’re over 300 million), folks over 500 are fairly rare (less then 1% according to a 2009 report). That’s not to say it’s not a huge (snicker) problem, it most certainly is.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ozarkian
My ex wife has a kid… was 13, 5’5 or so. The kid weighed way over 230… she wouldn’t say how much, was as round as he was tall it looked like. I mean people were shocked when they’d see the boy.
It’s not my kid, and we have a good relationship… that said, she wasn’t lying to me when she said she took him to the doctor and the doctor said he’d grow out of it, no biggie. Doc said i was crazy for saying anything, there’s no proof that health problems appear later in life, etc! The rest of the family shambles around grossly overweight with various ailments…. and none of them see any problems…
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Ozarkian
Oh, and BTW, if you walk ANYWHERE here, or ride a bike, the fat slobs will point, laugh, and call ya “poor” from their rusted out 1970′s Pintos w/ broken springs. We have a culture here that disdains anybody not in a vehicle…
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
urbisaereperennius
I’m a younger man in his late 20s, fit I’d say, and I walk to my supermarket. I was buying a couple bottles of juice and a five-pound bag of potatoes, and I was going to walk them the half mile or so back home. Well, the lady at the checkout counter actualy thought to ask me if I needed help to just carry these items to the car they presumed I had in the parking lot. What does that say? Without a cart, a couple bags of groceries needs assistance being taken to your car, let alone that you might walk it home?
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Kev Man
I refuse to be fat. When i was growing up, there were always a few fat kids in class. They tented to be slow moving, not all that motivated, kinda dim witted, and sloppy.
As i grew up, i never restricted my eating habits, but i was also very active with images of fat kids in my head not being able to do the things i was doing, like climbing trees, doing jumps on bikes, and even running.
Now a days, i see so many fat people everywhere. All i can think is, they dont care. In fact, they must like it. So i make fun of fat people. If they didnt like it, they wouldnt be fat. Esp chicks!
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Dev
You have blood on your hands. Best of luck living with it for the rest of your life.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
23r4tr
I don’t get it – why does he have blood on his hands? He did nothing but being motivated by fat people to now live the life they seem to choose to live.
huh?
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Skinny Su.
They “‘tented”? I think you meant “tended”.
You kind of come off like an asshole, which is a shame because you made a good point, but it is lost in your smug tone.
Also, you’ll probably come back as a fat chick in your next life …women have different metabolisms than men, more hormonal influences on weight, and different challenges. Your comment “esp chicks” is pathetic.
Good luck.
And no, I’m not fat, I’m toned and tight and I work at it and have always stayed active and have been lucky to not have a back injury or thyroid problem to make me gain weight where I have no control (this is true for some people). I don’t have the same cruelty for my heavier friends who have gained weight because each has their own story and their own struggle to contend with. The best we can do for them is create a sense of common-ground, less of this us and them crap and more of the show them the path to movement, help them start, the rest will fall into place if they want it badly enough. It really does happen fast for people once they’re ready and get moving / stop stuffing.
Go get a fat friend and get over it.
S.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
lemonadeandlemoncake
k…do you use logic?
you’re basing all of your wisdom on fat people based on ‘when i was growing up there were a few fat kids in class.’ plus, they weren’t as smart as you, so you’re obviously better than them, right?
some fat people DO like their bodies. but they don’t like assholes like you who think that anyone who doesn’t give them an erection is a public health problem.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
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Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Jen
This man looks has almost the exact same body as my female boss. She got tired and her muscles hurt after walking a slow paced 1/2 block today. If you get tired after that, its a tell tale sign you are not healthy…. i attribute it to the fact that she puts butter on her already sauced pasta…sick
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Dev
To Kev Man,
You have blood on your hands. Best of luck living with it for the rest of your life.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
matt
shut up, fattie.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
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Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
jon
“unremarkableness of his size”
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i think in any culture, the above guy is *still* pretty dang huge. maybe the above photo says more about how we categorize what a “sideshow freak” is, as well as our penchant in the past for putting anything different than the “norm” on display.
well, i could see this guy being pictured on a site like People of Walmart…
ever witness people with “excessive” tattoos or piercings now days, without too much flinching?
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
mostmodernist.com
People still pay side-show respect to the grotesquely obese. It’s all on TV.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Girly
Obesity is clearly a health problem and no one can (or should) argue with that but let’s be easy on the judgment of people that struggle with this issue.
Fat people are hated and publicly mocked. With few exceptions, in popular culture they are often the pathetic character, the clown or the bad guy – as if fat people are unloveable and unloved.
It’s very, very difficult to lose weight and it only gets harder – if it were so easy most people would be a healthy weight because nobody chooses to be ostrasized. And yet obesity continues to grow.
Certainly it’s up to the individual to make the changes necessary to regain good health, but it’s one of the hardest things a human being can do. The most affordable food and the quickest (particularly if you work a lot of hours) is the worst food in the world for you – sugar, salt & fat – and it’s everywhere. Finding the time to exercise in a situation that’s not physically punishing or publicly embarrassing can also be difficult.
Of course it’s not impossible – but don’t judge people so harshly. If this is not a struggle for you – consider yourself lucky.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
mrcalire
Well, just to let you know, there are people out there who despite getting themselves into the situation for whatever reason go and try to lose the weight and what happens? They are taunted, harassed, thrown things at from car windows. You go into a gym and likely someone will video tape you and put you up on you tube and will try to humiliate you for trying to help yourself. (EVEN IN A FREAKING GYM!!!) I’ve seen it and it’s brutal what people do to overweight people trying to exercise.
So do the world a favor and no matter how big of a-hole you are or how good it will make you look in front of your friends. If you see someone overweight, leave them alone please.
The only way to lose weight is to be active, and good luck trying to do that in your living room to any substantial degree. The sad part is for most people 30 bucks a month, a gym membership is literally all that stands between obesity and health. Of all ironies of ironies, try being a significantly overweight person in a gym.
Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Myrddin McGill
At the age of 17 and 155 pounds, I had a bone tumor in my left femur (that ‘s the big bone that goes from my hip to my knee). It caused permanent loss of structural integrity – in short, I can’t do any exercise with that leg because the bone can’t handle the stress. I’m now 47, and weigh 235. But, just try walking into a gym and telling a coach that you want to loose weight but can’t exercise your left leg. They don’t know what to do!
I’ve tried diet modification, and that has stopped me from gaining more weight. But, it is impossible to loose weight by diet modification alone and still stay healthy. I’ve been hospitalized 3 times for trying.
So, some people who are obese aren’t happy with their situation. It just seems like there isn’t a solution available.
Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
recoveringsugarjunkie
Myrddin, you might want to check and see if there are any paraplegic sports teams or support centres in your area . . . they might be able to give you some tips/tricks for working out without using your leg or at least point you in the right direction. You’d be surprised and might even find a sports league to play in . . . you can also check in with veterans support services . . . they may not be able to help you but also might know who can.
Good Luck!
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
frevd
duh, it’s all about the crap you eat – americans might simply not know that their food companies turn them into fatlings (i wouldnt be surprise if the very same companies owned the wellness industry as well) – in my country (germany), mcdonalds, burgerking and even subway is considered shit (we have a word for it: fast-food, and it also includes coke & co.), you’d only eat there if you’ve got no chance or time, not regularly and definitely not every day – sure it tastes ok (not well though), but you reach the recommended 2000 kcal daily limit instantly (thats 8300kJ, less for women).
however, you don’t need to listen to those dieting programs, just eat less pizza analog cheese, less fatty acids (not that much meat, no mayo) or extreme sugar sweets and more fiber stuff (get some good bread, i.e. nothing you can crunch in your head and vegetables that are not sweet). plus, exercise on your way to work, dont drive if the walk would take you less than 10min. of course, it could take more time to prepare meals, but thats less time to eat more, eh?
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Patrick
Samoans are hefty people because of genetics, middle middle eastern are short and chubby. Just discounting genetics all together is a foolish thing to do. Thyroid problems, Genetics, metabolism problems due to upbringing all things that contribute.
If more people are fat today could it not be also put on their parents, and their parents before them. If your raised eating fat, addictive sugary foods your entire life then your thrust on the world with a messed up metabolism and a life long addiction to syrup, how easy do you think it is to change that?
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Cheryl
[Taft](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/William_Howard_Taft_telephones_1908.jpg) you phat-phobic phuck.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Jo Diggs
OK, sounds pretty reasonable to me dude.
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Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
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Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
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The problem with Obesity is not complicated.
Unfortunately when we eat Western Diet “Food Like” products and not real “Food” our bodies don’t function properly.
The sooner we realized that we need to make proper nutritional changes and eat real food, obesity and chronic disease will go away. By real food I mean a diet rich in veggies, fruit, and whole grains.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
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Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
recoveringsugarjunkie
Do any of you realize that one of the last forms of bigotry still considered acceptable here in North America is abuse of overweight or obese people?
Think on that a sec . . .
Yes I’m overweight and yes I’m working on it. This topic is complex. Most people don’t learn how to eat properly at home or at school and many Doctors either don’t or can’t take the time to properly discuss it with their patients. Often the Doctors think in the same way that many of you do . . . just stop eating the junk . . .
Part of the issue is the garbage that companies sell as processed convince food, especially the “diet” food.
Part of it is definitely a lack of getting up off our collective arses . . . you know . . . getting away from the computer now and then . . .
Finally part of it is something that’s finally come up in the news lately. Research has shown that junk food is just as addictive as hard drugs (apparently it’s only true if the lab rats say so, doesn’t matter how many people around the planet have said they can’t stop eating junk food). Sugar acts in a similar manner to alcohol in our blood stream. It’s addictive. Ever known an alcoholic or drug addict that’s trying hard to kick the habit? Imagine having your “poison” as close as your grandparents cupboards or the 7/11 down the street.
The comment about eating real food . . . that’s very true . . . but trust me . . . it’s not as easy as “knowing” what you should and shouldn’t eat.
Friday ~ April 16th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
ZeusTheTrueGod
Hi.
I think that there is a key reason (2-3, not more) of being overweight. You work hard, your earn good money, but your job makes your bored. You don’t want to be crazy – so you need to have a relax. And eating a food is a best way to remove some stress. So I completely understand people who eat a lot non-healthy tasteful food – that makes them feel happy. And I did that too on one of my bored work. Also we got a free pizza every week – So I got 20 pounds in half a year
I think that Americans have unhealthy environment around them. They like to use a car for moving from home to their office and back. May be it is ok to use the car everywhere. I don’t think that it is totally impossible to create and eat healthy food in America – I just think that you will look a bit strange for a society. Everyone used to eat a fast-food because they dont have a time for normal food.
And if you want to be a really healthy person in a corporate environment – you can not obey to their rules. I prefer to seems like a unsocial instead of eating unhealthy food – I bring the food from home(it is prepared by my wife), I eat 5 times per day due for some medical reasons. If I want to have a break and walk around for 15 minutes – I will not ask someone if that is allowed. And I try to work from home so I can make a break every hour and do a few physician exercises. That is a good side of programmer profession.
It is a never ending task for me to care about my health. My own habits, Computer which tries to root me to the chair
, friends/family member who wants me to drink with them on a party/birthday, laziness, bad weather, dead lines on work so I should do an overtime – There can be tons of “reasons” to eat non-healthy and spend all the day without physician activity. So it looks like a fight, and I will have this fight all my life. That is mein kampf
Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 1:23 am
Lauren
It basically sealed the deal. And then Roosevelt saw what an ass clown he’d tapped to replace himself and ran against Taft in the next election, lost the Republican primary, then switched to the Bull Moose Party and narrowly lost the general election. It’s pretty much what killed his spirit.
Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 1:44 am
Marshall
All y’all that are anything but tolerant and non-judgmental are so ignorant about this that I shudder to imagine your stupid opinions about other things. As someone married to a very smart person who is fat, I can tell you that your attitudes just come across as thoughtless and uninformed. You’re the little shit stains that made fun of fat kids in school and you deserve to trip ad fall into a big muddy puddle, daily.
Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 11:02 am
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Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Dran
You know what? Most people I see here just make excuses. Getting slim is sooo hard, sugar is addictive lika alcohol etc etc. Bullshit. If you know what the problem is and you still keep on doing what you do, thats plain laziness or stupidity.
The problem is in your mind, not body, not genetics (in huge majority of cases) etc. The only problem is that, you just don’t have the willpower to change the way you eat. It’s that simple. Why are you wasting time making up all these excuses instead of changing something?
Loosing weight is one of the hardest thing a human can do? Bullshit again. If that’s the problem you can’t solve then I really wish you all the best and not to have any real, really big, problems.
Healthy diet takes more time? Wrong, it takes a lot less. Sugar is the same as alcohol, when it comes to addictiveness? Wrong, don’t even compare.
Next problem is when you start thinking about yourself as a fat person… You people here are talking about huge people, literally huge. If you are talking about 250-300 or 500 lbs people, thats really horryfying I’m like 5’7 tall and I was weighing like 204 pounds. And that was a big problem for me, some of my friends were making a bit of fun etc (and thank you very much guys). I lost 54 pounds and now it’s 154. And that’s the proper weight for me, where I feel slim. Ofc now i workout to get some more muscles, but that’s a different story than fat and I don’t think, that most of fat people are muscular under it.
All it took me was like one week’s evenings of looking through internet and less than 4 month’s of diet. And some willpower, but I knew I’m doing this for myself and I didn’t make any excuses. And for MOST people it’s really THAT simple, excuses and laziness are the only problems.
PS. Sorry for my english, but It’s not my motherlanguage and I never even was to any english speaking country, so try to focus on what I wrote, not on my mistakes
Saturday ~ April 17th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
recoveringsugarjunkie
Good for you for loosing the weight and for keeping it off. I’m glad it wasn’t such a challenge for you. I’m glad you had the willpower to do it. You will have a longer and healthier life.
You might want to check something out . . . a recent study came out here in North America about junk food and how it acts in the body:
http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/health-well-being/stories/junk-food-junkies-are-real-addicts
I know that I am absolutely, positively addicted to sugar and because of this knowledge I’m doing something about it. Without this knowledge people just think they’re, lazy, lack will power etc. etc. The problem is as an addict the chemical balance in your brain is completely off. You’ve basically turned off the switch on your willpower. Where willpower really comes into play is when you hit rock bottom and realize that you’re an addict. That’s when you have to dig deep and pull out all the stops to start getting off your drug of choice.
Once you’re off your drug of choice your willpower gets stronger because your body chemistry comes back into balance. The key that most people miss is – to successfully stay off your drug of choice . . . you can’t ever go back on it. If you do your body chemistry goes out of whack, your willpower disappears and you end up back at square one.
By acknowledging that sugar/junk food is an addiction it can be treated as such. A new plan of attack can be created in order to tackle this problem. Once you know it’s your body working against you, not that it’s just your genes (which addiction is passed down through) or your lack of willpower, you can do something about it. It’s one of the biggest problems when people loose weight then gain it all back. You can’t go back to eating the sugary junk or it feeds right back into your old addictive habits.
Addiction is hard to beat, but by no means is it impossible to do so. I am working on not eating any sugar or refined flour, of any kind for at least a year. I’ve done this before and am back on the wagon. I know that I cannot have sugar or I’ll slip back into my old habits within a week. I know that I’ll never be able to eat sugar or junk food again if I want to stay healthy and happy. Period.
My biggest concern is the amount of sugar we feed our kids these days. It’s true as an adult . . . it’s pretty much up to you to fix yourself . . . as a kid . . . we have the responsibility to make sure our kids live long, healthy lives. Addiction is even worse if you start them young. We have to stop turning our kids into junkies before their 5th birthday.
One point you’ve made is very true. Loosing weight still comes down to the basics of eating real food, no junk and getting off our butts and exercising. That’s essentially what everyone should be doing no matter what they weigh!
By the way Dran . . . you didn’t make many mistakes . . . your English is rather good.
Sunday ~ April 18th, 2010 at 5:09 am
Dran
Yes, I know it’s “addictive”, I was there. I ate fast-food few times a week, a bar o chocolate every day plus some more of the junk food ofc. Junk food (sugar) makes you feel good, makes you lazy. So why am I writing it’s not really addictive like alcohol etc? Because I think it’s a lot different still. Yes, your mind demands more sugar, but that’s your mind only. It’s not like alcohol or drugs, where you will get physically sick when trying to put them away. You will not throw up, have shivers or see white mice.
In fact, the moment you start eating right you start feeling better. The only remaining problem is to control the mind. And the feeling of hunger because yes, you will feel hungry until your stomach gets used to smaller portions of food, but thats only like a week or two.
And your mind should already be more clear, you will not feel good doing nothing. As for me, I stopped feeling tired all the time, stared to do more things I didn’t feel like doing earlier, my stomach problems stopped etc. And it happened really fast, so I felt that it’s worth it and that’s helping a lot. Now I can have a kitchen full of chocolate and other junk and I don’t even feel the urge to eat it. Sometimes I take a bite or two but that’s all, with proper eating habits it’s not even a threat.
That’s why I wish everyone to find that willpower and try, cause it’s worth it and it’s definitely not close to impossible.
Sunday ~ April 18th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Karl Smith
Dran
You don’t want to over generalize from your own case. Are you certain that all overweight people, especially the mobridly obese experienced the same thing that you did.
For example, in my college days I drank an inordinate amount, enough to put my probably in the upper 1% in not 0.1% in terms of rate of consumption. Yet, I never had a problem putting away the bottle even for a minute. No willpower no nothing. It was effortless to me.
I am guessing this is not the experience of those genetically prone to alcoholism.
Also, check out my pieces
http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/04/17/obesity-and-the-first-law-of-thermodynamics/
http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/04/17/obesity-and-genetics/
Sunday ~ April 18th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
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Sunday ~ April 18th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
gbem1
1. I’m surprised the alcohol culture of the USA wasn’t delved into. It’s a large neighboring topic but it’s obviously closely related to weight gain. The early part of last summer was the first “thin period” I’ve had since sophomore year in high school (I’m 24 now) and while I did smoke a few cigarettes every day I rarely drank and spent a lot more of my time exercising and cycling around Philadelphia. Now I’m back to consuming a lot of beer and haven’t really been able to recover from the “holiday binge-eating” that starts with Thanksgiving and continues on through Easter and into the BBQ season of late spring/early summer. But back to the point: we’re socialized into thinking that consuming alcohol not only in large quantities but in rapid fashion is normal behavior. The beer gut is everywhere and for a lot of people I see walking on the streets (of all socio-ec walks) the issue is definitely in the gut–it’s the only thing making them “overweight” or “obese.” And look at the young gentrifiers–they don’t have a lot of money for food or booze and yet they probably spend a good deal on the latter for their social avenues, and there’s a lot of calories in your beer–especially your microbrewed stouts that are heavier than eating bread solo–but it’s in how you nurse it. So yeah, most cultures have great drinking problems, but it’s the different between seeing seeing folks over in Paris or Budapest partying until 4 in the morning with their wine and Unicum, contrasted with the American college dorm paradise where the parties also go to to 4 in the morning but also consist of cases and cases of the worst beer. The piss water, as they say. And that’s the freshman fifteen, as they say. It’s like a proving ground into the normalcy of obesity that will sit there for the next thirty-fifty years. Until you get so old your liver can’t handle that much booze. Or you get in a drunk driving accident and swear off the sauce until the cows come home.
2. Cigarettes: numerous essays I read in college when I had to write a paper on obesity in Canada described those who quit the tobacco as often experiencing a quick transition into obesity world. I quit smoking again about five weeks ago, and it’s been fine; however, I think maybe it hasn’t. I’m snusing now. About two a day (the Swedish kind, not the American shit), and yet I think the oral fixation of the cigarette was linked to hunger patterns. If I were to completely quit tobacco, I’d also get the metabolic disruptions too, which tobacco has so often been praised for, and I’m sure I’d gain some more weight. The reason I’m bringing this up at all is that the USA has this booming industry (tobacco) as it has had for so long, and it works through the addiction of both the nicotine and the marketing campaigns of the heralding companies; yet at the same time that industry’s always yelled at by the government and people are consistently told to “quit smoking.” NO SMOKING. The warning labels. The laws. Maybe smoking’s going down. But maybe it’s a ploy to aid the food industry. Maybe we’re going through so much stress that we bounce between the two. I know my stress is relieved most effectively through a) a cigarette; b) a shot or a beer or both; and/or c) a basket of fries with ketchup, mayo, and bbq sauce. So which addiction would you like? The industries may not necessarily be conscious of their effects but the systems do work, and if you can get the addicted personalities of all the viral-marketing-infected populous to be so confused and befuddled that they have no idea what’s happening but in reality are bouncing back and forth through so many addictions (addictions aided by the aids themselves, like the diet programs and the therapies and the support groups), well, now you’ve got some obese individuals. Obese in stress, repression, and maybe some extra fat content.
3. I’ve been to a few countries in my 24 years through trips and travels and the white/middle class privilege so I do understand that people not living in the USA will immediately see the weight issues in the USA. I know what it’s like to walk through Tokyo and experience a sea of very healthy, not-fat individuals. Or Galway. Or Toronto. Or Prague. Whatever. I think that what’s hard is to get Americans to look at how other cultures act. I can’t speak for any of the other national cultures out there, as I live here, and have always lived here, in the US, however, there are places that often get looked at as utopic or ideal. Regarding the issue of obesity and social issues, I turn to Sweden (I think it was already mentioned in this strand of comments). In the USA folks are often too ready or gullible and let themselves be led by the hand. They don’t make an effort to seek out the answers themselves because they’re being streamlined by whatever the latest is from the screen that’s in front of them. Television’s one thing, and it’s still a hugely subconscious tool that will be important as long as Sports exist in this country. Don’t let the Internet overshadow television. But yes, sites like Facebook/Myspace/Twitter created this faux individuality and control, this idea that you are the ruler of your universe, that you can play Mafia Wars when you want to, or put up your gallery of images and wrap it around you when you go to sleep at night. But really we’re just in control of the spectacle. We can arrange events and let everyone know we’re in control of who we have a relationship status with, but look beyond that. Go back to Sweden. Or France. Or Peru. Or Vietnam. Places where people exist but they go into their communities and get the answers because they have this capability to break free of the leash mentality. Even if it’s a love for a state, it’s an autonomous love. There’s the idea of being responsible for yourself. Even with all the messages that float around in the US that try to empower individuals into thinking with community in mind (look at the green movement, Whole Foods, et cetera, or even alcohol ads that talk about drinking responsibly), more leashes, leashes, everywhere. Cattle being herded. A great slave population. I’m sure that exists everywhere. You can take a place and sociologically deconstruct how the people are being controlled, but I think some societal states are more conscious and encouraging of freedom and knowledge building than others. Even calories are becoming the language of marketing here. Go into a McDonalds and you’ll see calorie numbers listed next to every item on the menu. What does it mean to the average person who goes to McDonalds? Do you think that the person who buys a Big Mac every day is going to stop buying a Big Mac when she/he sees the huge number next to it? Probably not. Well what about the next generation, the one that’s born into the calorie numbers listed, who thinks its normal? Do you think they even know or do you think it’s just part of the language of the people who put it up there? We’re shoving information down people’s throat but we’re not educating them, we’re not giving them the chance to develop their own tongue because the tongue doesn’t even have to exist with this model.
Monday ~ April 19th, 2010 at 5:08 am
Dran
Karl you are right, I don’t want to overgeneralize. And I realize that extremely obese people will get more trouble loosing weight, in the terms of mind control, but at the same time their bodies will loose fat more quickly at first. But it’s not what I wanted to write about. We should remember that nobody gets extremely fat overnight. It’s a time taking process. So maybe we should ask, why are we so indifferent to the problem until it’s too late? I think some education is much needed. People should know what the proper weight is and that they should take effort to stay close to it and how to do it.
I looked at your articles and I think you are right. And I already knew most of that, since I’m concerned about healthy eating habits and trying to gain some muscles etc.
You asked in the article what is the nature of different behaviors of obese and non-obese people and how to fix the feedback loop.
I think I can give one of the possible answers. Education and learning the proper eating habits. From my observations slim people have those, mostly from childhood, they ate healthy food from the beginning and that’s why their bodies know what is good and what’s not. My wife for example, she was growing up on a farm, mostly fresh food, no junk food at all etc. She eats quite much, but she doesn’t gain weight. When she eats too much she’s feeling sick.
Now myself… I was a bit on the fat side since childhood, eating sweets etc. Later I got slim cause I was into sports, but with the years going it stopped, work behind the desk etc. I started to eat fast foods, junk food, lots of sweets and got pretty fat. My feedback loop wasn’t working at all. I ate, got full and ate again after a short while.
Now, when I started to eat healthy food, small portions, etc. it got different. After Easter I started to eat more, I just felt hungry after two days of sitting behind the table with my family and eating food full of fat and sugar. But what happened, my body said “no way” and after a few days of overeating I got really sick, to the point that I couldn’t even eat anything the whole day, my stomach went crazy. That was the feedback loop working again. Do I have to mention that a year ago if I would eat that much I wouldn’t even feel ill? I would probably even eat considerably more.
So I think that even if you were not lucky enough to learn the right habits at home, you can still make it right with some effort, the body will learn, but it just needs some time, when the discipline has to be forced.
I know there are people who were fed with junk food since childhood and are entering adult life already with a big problem or sick people and I really feel sorry for them, cause it can be really hard for them to get rid of the that. But as for people who just got those extra weight over years because of eating junk and not moving, I think it’s more easy for them. Sadly many of them tend to say it’s genetics etc. cause it’s easier to blame it on something they can’t control, than make some effort to change.
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