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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s beggar that neighbor &#171;  Modeled Behavior</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/01/21/o-canada-the-true-north-strong-and-free/#comment-4575</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s beggar that neighbor &#171;  Modeled Behavior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] only are they growing faster, by some measures they&#8217;ve got more economic freedom than us now. All I&#8217;m saying is that&#8217;s a real nice economy they&#8217;ve got there; I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] only are they growing faster, by some measures they&#8217;ve got more economic freedom than us now. All I&#8217;m saying is that&#8217;s a real nice economy they&#8217;ve got there; I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pscarino</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/01/21/o-canada-the-true-north-strong-and-free/#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pscarino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s safe to say that the liberal economic policies of the pas Greenspan era did NOT contribute to economic growth, ergo today&#039;s mess. Was it A.Greenspan who was quoted that fraud should be outlawed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s safe to say that the liberal economic policies of the pas Greenspan era did NOT contribute to economic growth, ergo today&#8217;s mess. Was it A.Greenspan who was quoted that fraud should be outlawed?</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/01/21/o-canada-the-true-north-strong-and-free/#comment-1181</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting to learn how Canada has surpassed the United States.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting to learn how Canada has surpassed the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg B.</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/01/21/o-canada-the-true-north-strong-and-free/#comment-1168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a useful measure only to the extent that it shows the government expenditure rate as a function of GDP.  It should not be used to compare systems and tax structures as these are vastly different.

For Canada to do better, the average Canadian and Canadian family must do better than it is doing now.  Without risking damage to either health care or education or other needed social programs, governments at all levels must focus on controlling their costs and ensuring that the average Canadian does better.

While the GST was the most hated tax ever that led to the fall of many small businesses during the transition as people withheld their discretionary spending what the current Conservative government has done in reducing the GST instead of our taxes has been a retrograde step.

Governments can have it both ways. They can either have their consumption taxes and lower personal income taxes but not both which is what has happened.

As a Canadian working in Hong Kong these days but still a resident of Canada for tax purposes, I can tell you that our country is still a wonderful place as it cares for its seniors better than I see is done here.  In Canada you don&#039;t have to quit work to take care of sick or elderly parents. I see it all the time here.  Our medical plans are not all linked to our jobs which if you lose yours means you might be in trouble if a family member has high medical bills.

We Canadians may complain a lot but we have much to be grateful for. 

For me as a Canadian who is in the upper 10% of income earners I have done well. What worries me is that our youth are facing higher education costs and that these are set in place by my generation who benefited from relatively inexpensive post secondary education and who had summer jobs that paid well (not a lot of which exist today).  

We need to invest in our youth and ensure that Canadians have decent jobs not all low paid service sector jobs.  These jobs will only come from investing in people! Education is critical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a useful measure only to the extent that it shows the government expenditure rate as a function of GDP.  It should not be used to compare systems and tax structures as these are vastly different.</p>
<p>For Canada to do better, the average Canadian and Canadian family must do better than it is doing now.  Without risking damage to either health care or education or other needed social programs, governments at all levels must focus on controlling their costs and ensuring that the average Canadian does better.</p>
<p>While the GST was the most hated tax ever that led to the fall of many small businesses during the transition as people withheld their discretionary spending what the current Conservative government has done in reducing the GST instead of our taxes has been a retrograde step.</p>
<p>Governments can have it both ways. They can either have their consumption taxes and lower personal income taxes but not both which is what has happened.</p>
<p>As a Canadian working in Hong Kong these days but still a resident of Canada for tax purposes, I can tell you that our country is still a wonderful place as it cares for its seniors better than I see is done here.  In Canada you don&#8217;t have to quit work to take care of sick or elderly parents. I see it all the time here.  Our medical plans are not all linked to our jobs which if you lose yours means you might be in trouble if a family member has high medical bills.</p>
<p>We Canadians may complain a lot but we have much to be grateful for. </p>
<p>For me as a Canadian who is in the upper 10% of income earners I have done well. What worries me is that our youth are facing higher education costs and that these are set in place by my generation who benefited from relatively inexpensive post secondary education and who had summer jobs that paid well (not a lot of which exist today).  </p>
<p>We need to invest in our youth and ensure that Canadians have decent jobs not all low paid service sector jobs.  These jobs will only come from investing in people! Education is critical.</p>
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		<title>By: Blame Canada? at Langkilde 2.0</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/01/21/o-canada-the-true-north-strong-and-free/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blame Canada? at Langkilde 2.0]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] recently misplaced a good deal of it around here [in the US]. A little suspicious if you ask me. (Modeled Behavior)   &#171; Fysik i media Förvirrad strategi [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] recently misplaced a good deal of it around here [in the US]. A little suspicious if you ask me. (Modeled Behavior)   &laquo; Fysik i media Förvirrad strategi [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sgi</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/01/21/o-canada-the-true-north-strong-and-free/#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sgi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to see this index compared to a cost of living index. Yes, Canadians have economic freedoms that are the envy of most of the world, but what do those freedoms actually buy? What standard of living can they purchase?

In British Columbia where I live, most people cannot afford to buy single family homes; our car insurance, gas, and hydro are all public monopolies, our education and health services are monopolized by unions, and our provincial government boasts that it is the largest unionized corporate employer in the province. 

Thus almost all of our essential services are non-negotiable which doesn&#039;t leave much left over for anything else. So yes, you can start a business but who is going to buy your product?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see this index compared to a cost of living index. Yes, Canadians have economic freedoms that are the envy of most of the world, but what do those freedoms actually buy? What standard of living can they purchase?</p>
<p>In British Columbia where I live, most people cannot afford to buy single family homes; our car insurance, gas, and hydro are all public monopolies, our education and health services are monopolized by unions, and our provincial government boasts that it is the largest unionized corporate employer in the province. </p>
<p>Thus almost all of our essential services are non-negotiable which doesn&#8217;t leave much left over for anything else. So yes, you can start a business but who is going to buy your product?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://modeledbehavior.com/2010/01/21/o-canada-the-true-north-strong-and-free/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a financial analyst and resident of Canada for seven of the 11 years between 1997 and 2008 (living in Alberta and then Ontario), I can confirm that on average the place has liberalized.  However, I&#039;d use a physics analogy and characterize the change as one of potential energy, not kinetic energy.

This stuff hasn&#039;t trickled down to the consumer except via marginally lower taxes.  And even there the Canadian taxpayer begins paying income tax at approximately $8k of labor or capital earnings per year, versus around $30k in the US.

The commercial/retail sector is still sclerotic.  Interprovincial trade barriers keep markets balkanized, prices high and quality low.  Oligopolies exist in most consumer sectors because the country is small (30 million) and yet essentially closed to retail competition with the U.S.

Productivity is endemically 20% below the U.S. and salaries are as well.  The housing stock in major markets is generally of vastly inferior quality to the U.S. and much more expensive.  Urban growth boundaries in places such as Ottawa make the situation much worse.

Two pithy examples of what being a Canadian consumer mean v. the U.S.  I bought a hockey helmet three years ago while living in Ottawa.  Manufactured 120 miles from my home in Ontario.  It cost US$ 135 plus 12.5% tax for a total of ~ US$ 150 in Ottawa.  Couldn&#039;t&#039; find it online any cheaper anywhere in Canada.  Ended up buying it one week later from a sporting goods warehouse operation in L.A. and having it shipped to my brother&#039;s house in Upstate NY.  Paid $75 with shipping.

Shopped for a new car shortly before moving.  US$40k in Ontario incl tax.  Same model and trim in the U.S. three months later cost US$26k.

Lower taxes are great for Canadians.  However, these don&#039;t begin to ameliorate the misery that characterizes being a Canadian consumer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a financial analyst and resident of Canada for seven of the 11 years between 1997 and 2008 (living in Alberta and then Ontario), I can confirm that on average the place has liberalized.  However, I&#8217;d use a physics analogy and characterize the change as one of potential energy, not kinetic energy.</p>
<p>This stuff hasn&#8217;t trickled down to the consumer except via marginally lower taxes.  And even there the Canadian taxpayer begins paying income tax at approximately $8k of labor or capital earnings per year, versus around $30k in the US.</p>
<p>The commercial/retail sector is still sclerotic.  Interprovincial trade barriers keep markets balkanized, prices high and quality low.  Oligopolies exist in most consumer sectors because the country is small (30 million) and yet essentially closed to retail competition with the U.S.</p>
<p>Productivity is endemically 20% below the U.S. and salaries are as well.  The housing stock in major markets is generally of vastly inferior quality to the U.S. and much more expensive.  Urban growth boundaries in places such as Ottawa make the situation much worse.</p>
<p>Two pithy examples of what being a Canadian consumer mean v. the U.S.  I bought a hockey helmet three years ago while living in Ottawa.  Manufactured 120 miles from my home in Ontario.  It cost US$ 135 plus 12.5% tax for a total of ~ US$ 150 in Ottawa.  Couldn&#8217;t&#8217; find it online any cheaper anywhere in Canada.  Ended up buying it one week later from a sporting goods warehouse operation in L.A. and having it shipped to my brother&#8217;s house in Upstate NY.  Paid $75 with shipping.</p>
<p>Shopped for a new car shortly before moving.  US$40k in Ontario incl tax.  Same model and trim in the U.S. three months later cost US$26k.</p>
<p>Lower taxes are great for Canadians.  However, these don&#8217;t begin to ameliorate the misery that characterizes being a Canadian consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tedd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tedd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the propensity of federal governments in Canada to try to buy votes with Millenium Projects and other such nonsense, it&#039;s hard to believe that we could be held up as an example of virtue.  But it does appear that we&#039;ve been at least a little better in that respect than many OECD countries, and certainly better than the U.S. over the past couple of decades.

What I find most disturbing is that, in both Canada and the U.S., there doesn&#039;t seem to be a very good correlation between the rhetoric of politicians and the behaviour of the governments they form.  In Canada, we&#039;ve had Liberals that, during the election, decried spending restraint as though it was the greatest possible evil, but who were reasonably prudent while in power, and Conservatives who have done the opposite.  I believe it has been similar in the U.S. (although without quite so much prudence, apparently).

This leaves thoughtful voters in a quandary.  If politicians were consistently deceptive about fiscal prudence then we could simply vote for those who argued against it, knowing that we&#039;d then get it.  But sometimes the rhetoric does match the results, making it very difficult to choose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the propensity of federal governments in Canada to try to buy votes with Millenium Projects and other such nonsense, it&#8217;s hard to believe that we could be held up as an example of virtue.  But it does appear that we&#8217;ve been at least a little better in that respect than many OECD countries, and certainly better than the U.S. over the past couple of decades.</p>
<p>What I find most disturbing is that, in both Canada and the U.S., there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a very good correlation between the rhetoric of politicians and the behaviour of the governments they form.  In Canada, we&#8217;ve had Liberals that, during the election, decried spending restraint as though it was the greatest possible evil, but who were reasonably prudent while in power, and Conservatives who have done the opposite.  I believe it has been similar in the U.S. (although without quite so much prudence, apparently).</p>
<p>This leaves thoughtful voters in a quandary.  If politicians were consistently deceptive about fiscal prudence then we could simply vote for those who argued against it, knowing that we&#8217;d then get it.  But sometimes the rhetoric does match the results, making it very difficult to choose.</p>
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